18:37:15 GMT I understand that Redis is almost certainly not going to get native SSL support, but could someone help me understand this comment? https://github.com/antirez/redis/issues/2178#issuecomment-65162770 18:37:48 GMT i'm familiar with stunnel; i'm just wondering how native TLS/SSL support would eliminate operational overhead surrounding stunnel 18:38:37 GMT with SSL you'd still have to deal with annual certificate rotation... 18:39:15 GMT what exactly is different about the stunnel approach? 19:02:16 GMT with stunnel you have to deal with additional port mappings, i guess 19:02:45 GMT not sure why people don't just use a VPN, that is the same overhead as direct TLS support imho 21:37:02 GMT sometimes the added headache of private subnets is enough to put you off, esp in a larger cloud environment 21:38:46 GMT well, you do need /some/ kind of private network between your shit, it's not something you run over the internet, not even with TLS