12:34:01 GMT <colo-work> what happens if I orderly shut down all nodes in a redis-sentinel managed instance, and have them start up again afterwards - what/who will decide which instance gets to be master? (assuming they serialized non-identical states into their RDB files)
15:43:01 GMT <JordiGH> Does Redis allow any stream of bytes as a valid key? I'm hitting an encoding error with django_redis when giving it a Python str (i.e. bytes) that has non-ASCII bytes, and I wonder if that's django_redis being wrong or it trying to account for a limitation of Redis.
15:43:19 GMT <JordiGH> (Python 2 str)
17:05:15 GMT <minus> JordiGH: yes, redis only deals in bytes, it must be a python problem. Also, use Python 3
17:05:42 GMT <JordiGH> NO U
17:06:15 GMT <JordiGH> Looks like there's a fix: https://github.com/niwinz/django-redis/pull/262
19:18:32 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> hi
19:18:47 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> anyone there?
19:18:59 GMT <Habbie> if you have a question, just ask it
19:19:47 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Redis says the port is being used but when using netstat, the port doesn't look like it's being used.
19:26:16 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Hello?
19:26:56 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> You gets should convert to Discord.
19:27:01 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> *guys
19:27:04 GMT <minus> never
19:27:05 GMT <_ikke_> And then..
19:27:17 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> But, c'mon. IRC is getting old.
19:27:20 GMT <minus> i've never used discord, but fuck discord
19:27:26 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Why?
19:27:27 GMT <minus> i like my 1988 chat protocols
19:27:40 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> But if someone joins the chat, they can't see previous messages.
19:27:50 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> So, how is someone suppost to help me with my problem?
19:27:51 GMT <minus> yeah, but there's really no need for that
19:27:59 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Do you know what discord is?
19:28:01 GMT <minus> well, most people that could help idle anyway
19:28:08 GMT <minus> i do
19:28:09 GMT <_ikke_> And if you must, there are logs
19:28:16 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Why don't you like it?
19:28:18 GMT <minus> there's public logs?
19:28:42 GMT <minus> it's a closed, centralized platform. if the company goes down, everything is gone
19:29:01 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Wdym it's a closed centralized platform?
19:29:16 GMT <minus> you can't run your own discord server, can you?
19:29:47 GMT <minus> but to get back to your initial question: you get a 'Address already in use'?
19:30:10 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Yes.
19:30:37 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Also, what do you mean by: you can't run your own discord server, can you?
19:30:40 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Yes, you can.
19:30:50 GMT <minus> oh, i did not know that
19:30:59 GMT <minus> is it open source?
19:30:59 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> You don't need to do anything, just click new server.
19:31:08 GMT <_ikke_> It's bloated though
19:31:17 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> What does bloated mean?
19:31:43 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Sorry, I have a tiny vocabulary.
19:31:49 GMT <minus> ss -tlpen | grep 6379 is turning up nothing?
19:31:54 GMT <_ikke_> DidUJustHitDat: That new server is still hosted by discord itself, isn't it?
19:32:05 GMT <_ikke_> sorry, /offtopic
19:34:07 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> What do you mean? The new server?
19:34:09 GMT <minus> yeah, you can't self-host discord
19:34:19 GMT <minus> they host the server for you
19:34:21 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Yeah, what's the problem with that?
19:34:23 GMT <minus> which makes it worthless
19:34:28 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> How?
19:34:38 GMT <minus> you're not in control of the server
19:34:51 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Like, what stuff can you not do then?
19:35:07 GMT <minus> if they go bankrupt it's your loss
19:35:22 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> So, that's it?
19:35:37 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> The only reason I even use redis is because of discord.
19:35:49 GMT <minus> IRC networks on the other hand can consist of multiple servers, run by independent parties, just linked together, if one dies, the users migrate to another server
19:36:12 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Discord don't host their own servers.
19:36:18 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I think.
19:36:36 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I might be wrong on that one, but I think I saw somewhere that they use google and other places.
19:36:44 GMT <minus> they probably host on AWS or so, yeah, but that doesn't change the fact that it's all controlled by a single party
19:36:53 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> So, is that the only problem?
19:37:01 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> What about all of the pros?
19:37:10 GMT <minus> what do you need redis for when dealing with discord? curious here
19:38:01 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Discord bots.
19:38:28 GMT <_ikke_> irc bots are a thing
19:39:35 GMT <minus> actually i did write an irc bot using redis
19:39:38 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I know...
19:39:46 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> He asked me what I use redis for, I said for discord bots.
19:39:56 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I never said there is no irc bots.
19:40:02 GMT <minus> only last year though, one usually does that at 15
19:40:49 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Can someone just help me with my problem? That's the only reason I'm here.
19:41:44 GMT <minus> minus │ ss -tlpen | grep 6379 is turning up nothing?
19:41:59 GMT <minus> you aren't running it in docker or so, are you?
19:42:00 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Nothing happens.
19:42:10 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I'm running it from bash.
19:42:22 GMT <minus> do you have a SELinux-enabled system?
19:42:27 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> idk
19:42:41 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> idk what a selinux is
19:43:05 GMT <minus> it's a security extension of the kernel that can break things
19:43:13 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> well idk
19:43:19 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> i did netstat and nothing was using the porr
19:43:22 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> *port
19:43:37 GMT <minus> can you run `sestatus` (eventually with sudo)
19:43:54 GMT <minus> how are you starting redis?
19:43:59 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Command not found.
19:44:09 GMT <minus> okay, no selinux then
19:44:29 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Im using cmd in the directory of redis and i use the command: src/redis-server
19:44:33 GMT <minus> maybe if you try starting redis and post the shell output in a pastebin or make a screenshot
19:45:17 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> https://pastebin.com/etGLCp1t
19:46:42 GMT <minus> can you try specifying a different port? using --port 6380 for example
19:47:11 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Already in use.
19:48:51 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> What ever I try says already in use.
19:49:00 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> So I think it is a problem with redis.
19:49:09 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> But I haven't been able to find a fix on the internet.
19:49:19 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I went on the github and badboy told me it wasn't a bug and my problem.
19:49:29 GMT <minus> what distro are you using?
19:50:20 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> distro?
19:50:23 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> wtf is that
19:50:49 GMT <minus> linux distribution
19:50:54 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> im not running linux
19:50:58 GMT <minus> os x?
19:51:01 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> nope
19:51:04 GMT <_ikke_> windows
19:51:05 GMT <minus> windows?!
19:51:16 GMT <minus> good luck
19:51:34 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Windows 10 running the bash command.
19:51:38 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Look it up.
19:51:45 GMT <minus> yeah, i know about it
19:51:57 GMT <minus> does redis even officially support windows?
19:52:24 GMT <badboy_> No
19:52:27 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Don't tell me that I've wasted a whole day of my summer holiday to find out that it wont even work on bash?
19:52:40 GMT <minus> quite possible
19:52:55 GMT <minus> you can run `make test` and see how much fails
19:53:11 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Error 1 & 2.
19:53:18 GMT <minus> though it is odd that binding won't work on windows
19:53:30 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> But badboy helped me fix that.
19:53:36 GMT <minus> but i can't actually help you there
19:53:45 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> What do I do now?
19:54:17 GMT <badboy_> Use a proper full Linux ;)
19:54:30 GMT <minus> you could use docker maybe
19:54:31 GMT <badboy_> or see if there's anything specific to the Linux subsystem in Windows that prevents this
19:55:07 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> whats docker?
19:55:24 GMT <minus> https://github.com/MicrosoftArchive/redis interesting
19:56:06 GMT <badboy_> or use the Windows fork of Redis directly (though that is not officially supported by the Redis project either and msopentech archived it for now)
19:56:12 GMT <minus> you could try getting that, it's an older version of redis, but it should probably work
19:57:09 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I'll try the github link you sent me.
19:58:38 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Do I just install that like I would on the normal redis?
19:58:48 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Like, open bash, do the commands, etc?
19:59:26 GMT <minus> you can just download the executables: https://github.com/MicrosoftArchive/redis/releases/tag/win-3.0.504
20:05:46 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Going to install the .msi file.
20:05:50 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> and run it
20:17:35 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> installed it how do i run it?
20:23:18 GMT <minus> it either installed a service (look up how to start services on windows) or you can probably start it from command by giving it the full path, e.g. C:\...\redis-server.exe
20:23:28 GMT <minus> but you're the windows user
22:21:00 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Hey.
22:21:19 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I'm back @badboy_ @minus
22:21:36 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> So, I got the Windows Redis, how do I start it?
22:25:34 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Hey.
22:25:37 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Can someone help me?
22:27:03 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Hey?
22:27:08 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Anyone there?
22:27:53 GMT <_ikke_> DidUJustHitDat: It helps to have a little more patience
22:28:33 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Where did minus go?
22:29:27 GMT <_ikke_> living their live?
22:42:03 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Ok, sorry.
22:42:06 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> It says their online.
22:42:19 GMT <_ikke_> Yeah, most users stay in the channel
22:44:37 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Ok.
22:44:43 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Do you know how to start Microsoft Redis?
22:47:06 GMT <minus> i gave you two suggestions before, but i don't actually know because i've never used redis on windows before. you're pretty much on your own
22:49:01 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Oh, do you know if there is a guide or something?
22:49:45 GMT <minus> nope, didn't even know there was a windows port before today
22:50:00 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Oh, ok.
22:50:05 GMT <minus> (well, technically yesterday. speaking of which, time to sleep)
22:50:11 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I'll try to find one. There isn't one on the GitHub.
22:50:25 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Ok, lol.
22:54:01 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Is this the redis docker guys? https://hub.docker.com/_/redis/
22:56:02 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Going to install a Linux VM.
22:56:04 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> *Ubuntu
22:56:30 GMT <minus> if you're installing an ubuntu VM you can just install redis via the package manager
22:58:08 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I'm an idiot when it comes to Linux & Ubuntu, what's a package manager?
22:58:32 GMT <minus> the thing that manages all software and lets you install new software
22:58:42 GMT <minus> on linux you don't go to websites to download software
22:58:46 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> The software thing on linux?
22:58:52 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Where you can download stuff?
22:58:59 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I have Linux Mint on a laptop.
22:59:10 GMT <minus> in the case of ubuntu and redis you'd just run `apt-get install redis` on a terminal
22:59:13 GMT <minus> same for mint
22:59:29 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Should I download VM or sideload the OS?
22:59:35 GMT <minus> you can compare it to an app store
22:59:51 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> I remember what it is.
23:00:36 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> Does the creator of redis ever come into the irc?
23:01:12 GMT <minus> haven't seen him in months
23:01:25 GMT <DidUJustHitDat> When was the last time redis was updated?
23:01:48 GMT <minus> redis 4 was release just a few weeks ago
23:09:27 GMT <inersha> I've got a script that increments a key in redis every few seconds. I want to show this value updating live on a webpage. What's the simplest way to get something like this working?
23:10:16 GMT <inersha> My experience with javascript starts and ends with jquery, so anything to get something up and running really simply would be great.
23:10:35 GMT <inersha> Any recommendations on where to start?
23:11:01 GMT <_ikke_> well, you probably need some kind of 'server' part, bridges between redis and javascript